what has caused you up to this point living the way you have with money both of you and then you hear us which is very counter what how you've been living what's been appealing about that like what is it in you that's like oh my gosh I want that side of money not what I've been doing that idea of freedom I'm like I'm like trying to talk with you but I'm like holding my breath and like the the heaviness of just owing so much money like the fact that I'm like wait a second I'd never thought about how much I owe and how much debt I'm and I've always been thinking about right now how much I owe for the month ver is like when I calculated it all after listening to you guys I was like I owe a million dollars like what in the world and I'm like I can't do this anymore especially when the wife says oh I'd love to have a new summer kitchen I'm like what are you talking about we have no money for
